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US Launches Biggest Offensive On Fallujah Yet; 28 US Soldiers Reported Killed
By: Hammerite on: 26.08.2004 [11:54 ] (9396 reads)
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by fly Guest on 26.08.2004 [12:59 ]
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The Iraqi Liberation Army is already united.
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by stopwar Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:07 ]
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Interesting that there has been INCREASED military US activity in both Sunni and Shia areas since the return of Sistani. Not helpful to his cause! Seems to me that he needs to make a brave decision.
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by Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:10 ]
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kill everyone and everything.
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by Red Herring Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:11 ]
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He's already made his decision, i.e. suck up to the occupiers and hope to be thrown some scraps. His name will belong in the hall of ignominy with Vichy and Quisling if he doesn't watch it.
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by stopwar Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:28 ]
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that would be surrender; not a spiritual decision at all. I am surprised - as you say, he only needs to look at history to see the consequences of such coalescence.
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by racist Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:30 ]
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This is all very sad.Because all that is going to happen is thousands of people are going to get killed or maimed,women children,resistance fighers and soldiers.All for what.In the end it acheives nothing.
How sad and regretable.The posts above are all blood curdling cries.Why not just spend a moment to think of all those people who will die today.Wether they be Iraqi or American.
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by One Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:47 ]
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"Why not just spend a moment to think of all those people who will die today.Wether they be Iraqi or American."
Because it's not the same: terrorists attack and must face the consequences. The resistance is just answering, with poor resources and much courage, the agression.
If they choose to attack they can't expect the people to welcome their bullets.
I'm sorry for the americans because I consider they've been brainwashed, but they must be killed for the sake of the whole planet.
They must be killed in Irak and everywhere else. They must be killed before they succed in making the world a Guantánamo base.
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by want to please you Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:49 ]
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"The posts above are all blood curdling cries.Why not just spend a moment to think of all those people who will die today.Wether they be Iraqi or American."
I will take your advice and pity the Americans who die in Iraq today. I will blame and hate the f*cking Martians who invaded Iraq, ooookay?
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by observer Guest on 26.08.2004 [13:55 ]
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by leaving iraq today
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by Racist guest. Guest on 26.08.2004 [14:08 ]
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The U.S soldiers do not want to be in Iraq.They wanted to do right for America.They have been lied too and lied too and lied too.Once the soldier is in Iraq and realises, there is no way out for him.If he surrenders he gets his head cut of.If he refuses too fight he gets imprisoned with his family back home being persecuted or Worse,he dies in a mysterious vehicle accident of which there has been MANY.Soldiers who have refused to fight or report the torturers have vanished,been killed.The American people as a whole are not the enemy.In time the people of the USA will hang all those responsible for destroying Iraq,Afganistan and America.from Lampposts in Washington.
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by observer Guest on 26.08.2004 [14:23 ]
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in the meantime they can desert,frag their officers,join the resistance,and their families can move house.
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by Syrian Guest on 26.08.2004 [14:50 ]
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Yes those blood thirsty fuckers do WANT to be in Iraq. Remember "burn mother fucker burn?". Don't think for a momment that we don't watch that kind of shit.
If these bastards don't want to be there, they can do what observer said.
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by One Guest on 26.08.2004 [15:02 ]
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by Deathtomarines Guest on 26.08.2004 [15:22 ]
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Wow! These news spice up my appetite!
Hot! These fallujah elites are the skillfull ones! Resistance should try to set ied on the runways at night and detonate them while the f-14,16s and 18s are taking off.
Or just shoot stingers while these scrap junks are taking off!Dig holes to bypass the airport fences just like vietcongs did.
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by plair Guest on 26.08.2004 [15:25 ]
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Several British also killed..From Albasrah.net
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by stopwar Guest on 26.08.2004 [15:44 ]
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Can't expect that to get reported... Impeach Blair NOW!
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by Guest on 26.08.2004 [16:25 ]
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What are the odds that those deaths never get reported by the pent a gon or the media ?
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by swampfox Guest on 26.08.2004 [16:27 ]
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f-14s,f-18s are most likely flying off of carriers.f-16s land based. see joe vialls website.
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by PATSANS4 Guest on 26.08.2004 [17:23 ]
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In the name of GOD, when will the American people stop this madness?
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by Internal Exile Guest on 26.08.2004 [17:38 ]
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It's starting here, what started in Germany in 1930, what started in Russia in 1917. The police are coming after people who have done nothing. They keep them in detention for months with no explanation.
And the same people are behind it. You know who they are? Wall Street. The big Jews. The same people who funded Lenin and smuggled him into St. Petersburg, in order to destroy Russian culture. The same people who funded Adolph Hitler, in order to destroy German culture.
There is no such thing as a neocon. These bastards are all ex-Trotskyites, shape shifters, whose mouths water at the thought of destroying America. Look how good America was to them, and it means NOTHING.
The American people will not stop this madness. They have been brainwashed for the last 50 years, turned into addicts, slobs, dopes. You try to tell the truth and even your family silences you.
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by stopwar Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:02 ]
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Show no fear. Use the media. Gather together. You can beat them but you must be spiritual; use your anger positively and creatively. Lots are brainwashed, but lots are not...
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by filthyrich Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:07 ]
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If you're in america come to NY and protest peacefully(of course) at the Republican National Convention at madison square garden(34st.7and8th avenue.). Come loud and ready. It's a real chance to show the outside world that not all people in america support the tyrant bush and his disrespectful, inhumane, disgraceful policies to basically any country where brown is majority and white is minority or none existent. But too all BE PEACEFUL, ANY VIOLENCE WILL MOST CERTAINLY OVERSHADOW THE MESSAGE TRING TO BE SENT OUT TO THE WORLD. Over 250,000 + people expected. Peace be to all.
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by Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:07 ]
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They are not Jews semites,They are Khazzars that mascarade as jews.They are paganist satanists.It is time that the Jews semites of the world stand up to these satanists.
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by filthrich Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:21 ]
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One thing about this thread is alot of people think all americans are evil.That simply is not true. Americans whose opinions are different from the government normally get no air time. The only reason some voices are being heard is because it is an election year. Anyway, anyone who thinks ALL americans are evil is just as stupid as the americans who think all muslims are terrorists. Think about that...
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by Tet on 26.08.2004 [18:32 ]
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"You try to tell the truth and even your family silences you."
Just a spoonful at a time brother, it's all they can handle. Don't stress about it, there's still time, but one spoonful at a time. Peace.
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by nkvd Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:33 ]
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Sure, I agree, there are alot of us who do not support the Bush takeover of America. But, you have only one vote here in the USA. Mine will not go to Bush, but we have no real choice at the polls, our system is in fact a one party state with only shades of difference. Two parties who agree on mst things and that is our choice. This country has no parliamentary system, thus no real voice or choice. The media is all propaganda all the time and has by and large succeeded in it's aim, most Americans will go for Bush in the election. Then we will see some action, he has 4 years to do as he likes and never face a voter again. Think of that, if you don't like his last 4 years. Bad days are coming I think.
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by Patriot1921 Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:38 ]
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I am an american, I am sick to death of the ignorance and comments of my fellow americans who think they are superior to every other person on earth. You are not, and by praising the ignorance of the bumbler in chief you are going down as sick human beings just as he is. Iraqi's are not terrorists or insurgents, they are defending their homeland. Those people did not invite the US to come into their sovereign country and remove Hussein and take over their oil. We were not invited, got it. We are the invaders. Got It! Of the 28 reasons Bush gave for the invasion of Iraq, NONE have found to be true. Tommy Franks gave you the true reason and it has not been debunked as Bush's have. We are fighting Iraq to protect Israel and Franks told you so. So how many of Israel's soldiers are fighting to protect Israel? NONE, they are up in the Kurdish area causing mayhem and pushing the US to take on Iran. Our military signed on to defend the United States and took an oath to do that. Israel is not the United States, we owe Israel nothing. Israel has been leeching off the United States far too long. Israel is failed experiment. How many young american men and women need to die before you wake up? Enough is enough, we are approaching almost 1000 young men and women who gave their life to protect, not the United States, Israel.
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by Sten'kaRazin Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:47 ]
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From I uderstand, US is not particularly constrained by massBS etc. They have been using carpet bombing and superior air- and fire- power to reduce whatever is there to rubble. Unlike Russians in Groznyi US was allowed to proceed with ultimatums and level these places. How come yanks do not control them?
Something is out of line of logic in here. We are either feeded BS by resistance regarding what is goinf on there or US armed forces are as bad as they seem to be. No offence to brave American heroes, but having such an advantage in fire and man power and not to be able to control the desert is pretty pathetic - terrain is highly favourable to use hightech weaponary, there is no "world public opinion" issue to deal with and no one really dears to finance and support these "terrorists". What's going on? Where did the money go? For 400+B a year budget Pentagon renders itself pretty much useless against people with AKs and RPGs? Weared. I am missing something here for sure.
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by Guest on 26.08.2004 [18:58 ]
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by rayzrwyr Guest on 26.08.2004 [19:07 ]
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As alluded to by nkvd, neither predominant political party in the US bears much difference between one another. I would vehemently urge all Americans, who will and should vote, to ideologically cast a vote for someone other than Heinz-Kerry or Dipshit-Bush. Regardless of what impact it will make, we can no longer sit idly by, while a two (one?) party system is systematically being forced down our throats. How embarassing that a country as "free" as the US only has 2 political parties to ostensibly choose from. Once again, cast that vote in a 3rd direction, whether or not it will make a difference. Peace b 2 all.
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by Wise Ass Guest on 26.08.2004 [19:25 ]
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"Every bus carrying convention delegates will have a city policeman aboard, to ensure that no protesters interfere with the buses serving the 4,853 delegates and alternates as they go back and forth between Madison Square Garden and their midtown Manhattan hotels."
Penn Station will be open and is right at the convention site, and
there are subway entrances within a few blocks of every major hotel
in Manhattan. This is the most secure way for the delegates to get
to their hotels- the subway has been stopped only once in recent
New York history. Also, keep in mind that midtown (23rd
Street to the fifties or sixties) is around two or three kilometers across
and the streets are clearly numbered in both north-south and
east-west directions and intersect at right angles except for Broadway.
No one could ever get lost walking back.
The reason why they don't take the subway or walk-- class. The sort
of people who are Republican delegates simply do not take public
transportation of any kind except for airplanes. I have actually
been questioned by police for being a pedestrian in the kind of
neighborhoods they live in, and they have, with a straight face, asked
me why I was walking. They are too stuck up to possibly get
to their hotels in a reasonable fashion.
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by badnarik will immediately pull out of iraq Guest on 26.08.2004 [19:41 ]
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check out the libertarian party @ lp.org
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by zhen Cheng Guest on 26.08.2004 [19:44 ]
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Those people in Baghdad should start cutting supplies nd attacking Green Zones with large forces moving to Fallujah.
Attack whereever it is weak!
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by worker Guest on 26.08.2004 [19:45 ]
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I was at break at work the other day, a day when several corporate board members were visiting (this is a top 10 fortune 500 company).. I was smoking a cigarette when a Security guard walked into the break room asking if anyone had called for a limo! As if he didn't know..
These bastards could have just as easily taken a fucking taxi or rented a car, but they had to waste company money on a limo because their 60 million dollar stock option asses need plush leather seating.
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by Tet on 26.08.2004 [20:09 ]
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by GunnyHartman Guest on 26.08.2004 [20:26 ]
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...is so riduclously inaccurate it makes the old Tass or Pravda look legit. You morons probably believe the world is flat too.
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by filthyrich Guest on 26.08.2004 [20:53 ]
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I came from whatreallyhappened.com. informative sight with interesting commentary
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by Timothy McVeigh II, US patriot Guest on 26.08.2004 [22:00 ]
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I have been here for a while on this forum, but I'd like to welcome you on to this board. It is always good to see fellow anti-imperialist Americans here.
Just for the record, I am not a white supremacist or a babykiller, before everyone criticizes my nickname. The regular posters here know my views quite well.
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by GunnyHartman Guest on 26.08.2004 [22:16 ]
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Just for the record, I am not a white supremacist or a babykiller
although I fantasize about killing babies hence my moniker
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by Guest on 26.08.2004 [23:06 ]
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I am the most proficient poster since the old Iraqwar.ru site.
My Nick is Guest , but it seems to be used by impostors sometimes ;-)
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by Tet on 26.08.2004 [23:32 ]
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Good to see you're back. Peace.
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by Turco Guest on 26.08.2004 [23:36 ]
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As to my knowledge of the history of the incident, Timothy was the fellow who bombed the FBI building (or was it the Federal Building?) in response to the events happened in Waco? (In which children had died) Am I absolutely wrong here? Why and who is babykiller? Being a Turk, I do not associate myself with the "white-race" as it is understood in the west (Although we are caucasians, we are also muslims). So I am totally neutral on that one. So why are you being defensive Timothy McVeigh the 2nd? Since you chose that name yourself. Is it just that you know the Americans are brainwashed on the subject and they are prejudicious or something?
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by YankinOZ Guest on 27.08.2004 [00:03 ]
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I agree we need to vote outside either Kerry or Bush. At least here in Australia, Mark Latham (alternative to PM John Howard) has promised to pull out of Iraq, whereas John "BushLite" Kerry has promised to keep them in Iraq. But the US election is only weeks away, and early voting is even sooner. To overcome both Kerry and Bush will really take massive organization. The internet, with its instant reach to so many everywhere is capable of such organization, but we have not even yet agreed among ourselves who is the guy we should support, so how can a third guy ever win? There are many choices, but the leading third guy, Ralph Nader, has at least denounced both Ariel Sharon and Iraq, as well as other important issues such as the environment.
I finally got to see F911 last night. I left the US in April 2002 and had no idea that Bush's inauguration parade was greeted with thousands of anti-Bush protesters, and that the parade had been stopped for the first time in history because of its being pelted with raw eggs.
You know, both Bush and Chinese President Hu Jintao visited Sydney about a year ago. The Red Chinese president walked freely among the Australians, shaking their hands, just like President Clinton when he visited here before. On the other hand, President would only ride through the crowds in his bullet-proof limosine. So which country is the freest: Red China or the USA?
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by insolence Guest on 27.08.2004 [00:10 ]
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It's interesting to see that there are still people in the US like GunnyHartman that get all of their vital information about world events on the Federal Evening News. Their emotional outbursts in forums like this make much more clear to other thinking people left in the US, and around the world, why it is that the US government is so seriously out of control. And to the people of the world, beware this leviathan. It cannot be allowed to continue on it's present course, lest it devour you all. It must be STOPPED, and the American people are powerless to do what must be done. Our fate is in your hands. May God have mercy on us all.
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by Timothy McVeigh II, US patriot Guest on 27.08.2004 [00:21 ]
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Gunny Hartman "although I fantasize about killing babies"
America rules babykillers! Including Gunny Hartman and other federal murderers who killed children in Waco, Ruby Ridge and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi babies.
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by scipio Guest on 27.08.2004 [00:23 ]
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Ka to bẹrẹ ohun kohun sẹ o, afẹ fi ti Oluwa şiwaju…
Ka to bẹrẹ ohun kohun sẹ o, afe fi ti Oluwa şiwaju…
Wipe Edumare baba o, Edumare baba o, Edumare babao Edumare baba o, Se alati lehin wa…
Edumare baba o, Edumare baba o, Edumare baba o, Edumare baba o…
Loosely translated:
Before we start any endeavour, let us call upon the Almighty creator…
Before we start any endeavour, let us call upon the Almighty creator…
That Lord Almighty Father, be the wind beneath our backs…
Lord Almighty Father, be the rock that we lean on…
Lord Almighty Father, Lord Almighty Father, we await your guidance…
And so with this prayer, we prepare for the Holy Jihad which shall last no less than eight years and no longer than ten years…We have given aggressors time to withdraw their menace and all to no avail and thus must we adopt the Mosaic Law of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, drop of blood for drop of blood till vengeance is satisfied and retribution accounted for and as it is said “those who commit murder shall pay with blood just like their victims”…We did not desire that it come to this but since our compassion, patience, and integrity has been taken for granted, then let there be no mercy for the wicked and thus, I call upon the ‘Immortals” to prepare for the drive south and for Damascus to hold firm on the western flank while we drive the power-lusting zionistas all the way back into the sea from whence they came but we shall spare true Jews who desire to live in peace with their neighbors…
Mecca should tremble at their immorality for soon, a consuming fire heads that way to cleanse the Holy place of Islam of wickedness spiritual and moral…As for the American patriots of the republic of Washington, please make up your mind and stop lusting after illusions for now, you’ll need an iron man, a realist who understands that for the republic to live, the empire must die and thus, you should be looking for an empire killer…As for the aggressor army in Iraq of the hanging gardens, they must withdraw to the last man else face the scimitar of the faithful owners of the land…
I heard there’s a competition to build the tallest building on Terra and I wonder when man will learn the lesson of ‘Babel” when man sought to build up to the heavens in mockery of the Almighty and I’ll say “be careful, be very careful for you’re playing with divine fire which consumes without let”…
And to my enemies, this:
E ma ditẹ mi mọ, me ku o ajo ni mo re…
E ma ditẹ mi mọ, me ku o ajo ni mo re…
Alara me ku o, me ku o, ajo ni mo re...
Alara me ku o, me ku o, ajo ni mo re...
Soon, there shall be a “Pax Divina”, a peace that is chosen rather than imposed for it is a peace that is tolerant and respectful of all cultures, traditions, and beliefs without interference except when a serious destabilization is imminent…And regarding the looters of the wealth of Innocents, soon you shall cough it all up and we shall go after the media peddlers of deception, the fat-cat financiers of warfare, the ivory tower professors who mislead the young, and the vainglorious military men who have forgotten what honour means, in short, we are going after those who have brought the great American republic to her knees and placed a gun at the head of the Innocent inhabitants of Terra as well as the rampant polluters of our air…
Once man was one with nature, once man walked with nature, once man respected nature but now, concrete covers everything, hiding the beautiful glory of Terra, turning the entire earth into a gigantic ghetto of decrepit structures abandoned with the land beneath inaccessible, what a shame….We have forgotten that everything should be undertaken with moderation as the guiding principle but now, the Almighty will make us remember for the land and all its fullness belongs to Him and if you disagree, please provide the plan of the foundations of the earth, the map of the hidden seas, and the storehouses of the cardinal winds and we can compare with that of the creator of the garden, I await your response…
That’s all for now, I’m tired and when I try to rest, I come back and find everything in a gigantic mess, sigh…
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by Timothy McVeigh II, US patriot. Guest on 27.08.2004 [00:31 ]
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1. White supremacists are racists who believe in the superiority of the white race. They like to claim that whites are suffering and victims of excessive political correctness and liberalism. Needless to say they promote racial segregation and apartheid under the pretext of preserving purity and everyone's own unique racial identity and "richness". Beyond all this rhetoric they are racists, and white nationalist/fascists. I condemn them. Gunny Hartman it seems is one of them.
I believe all humans are equal and that we all benefit by intermixing, intermarrying and living together harmoniously. This is one of the things which made America great, and has made it a home for many diverse ethnic communities from across the world.
2. Babykillers. In America Timothy McVeigh has been demonized as an evil man who sought to kill babies. He did not intend to kill children and it was of course a highly regrettable tragedy. Many American posters have complained about my nick, so I merely wanted to assure the new US posters that I don't conform to the image and media misrepresentation they have of the original Timothy McVeigh. Other posters are aware that the so-called "federal" government was involved in the Oklahoma attack.
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by PhilOchsLives Guest on 27.08.2004 [00:39 ]
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I wonder how many American soldiers (including American mercenaries) have been killed by Iraqi freedom fighters so far? And how many Iraqis, including soldiers, have been slaughtered by American firepower?
Anyone know?
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by Internal Exile Guest on 27.08.2004 [02:04 ]
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I read whatreallyhappened.com, too. Great website. Another great website: vialls.com (used to be joevialls.co.uk).
My favorite political cartoon shows a rock. It says:
"This rock does not think that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
This rock does not think that Saddam Hussein was allied with Osama bin Laden.
This rock does not think that Iraq was responsible for 9-11.
Which makes this rock more intelligent than 60% of the American people."
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by Alpumot Guest on 27.08.2004 [02:04 ]
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I would say from last year's invasion up to June 9, 2003 up to 100,000 Iraqis died, although the figure could be 60,000. 100,000 would be more accurate, people are going to get killed by the 10,000's
when 30,000 bombs are dropped on them, and don't forget the machine gune fire and tank fire from the US/British militaries. FOR EACH BOMB DROPPED, the range for number of people killed is from a low of 3 to a high of around 35. Taking the number 3 to be very conservative, multiply it by 30,000 bombs dropped and you get 90,000 people killed.
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