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Nuclear War Imminent?
By: DevilsAdvocate on: 24.06.2005 [06:37 ] (4534 reads)
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [09:11 ]
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The reason for this bulletin is that SenderBerl now concludes that Israel will attack Iran
SenderBerl is a zionist third-rate web site, its analyses are as mangled and muddy as your bulletin and then they throw what they call "G-d" into the mix making it completely indigestible.
>>Things need to change and now. If not by our own hand I think by biblical design they soon will.
I thought this site was meant for geopolitical analysis, I wonder how prophets are allowed to post their ramblings as it they were articles or news.
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [09:14 ]
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>>..The further truth is that they provided Arab/Islamic terrorists an improved training field to enhance their skills. ...
This zionist shill is showing his true colours now. What Arab/Islamic terrorists are you talking about, DevilsAdvocate ?
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [09:19 ]
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>>...only the American people cannot see the forest from the trees.
Oh yes, they can. The American (US) people gladly gobbles up the lies. The lies have been exposed a zillion times, in the US media too, but the US people pretend to believe them because they hope that those lies will eventually help them keep their parasitic way of life. The US people beg their politicians for lies, and vote for those who provide them and act on them, again and again. It's their SUV's, credit cards and mortgages that are at stake, lies are welcome to stay afloat.
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [09:24 ]
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''>>what we confirm by this bulletin due to intel received from our investment models is...'
I see a claim of false authority here. Whose intelligence and whose models are you talking about? Who is "our"? zionist shills SenderBerl? What credibility are you trying to extract from vague references to models and intel?
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [09:34 ]
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>>the evidence is there that the status quo candidate in the Iranian candidate will prevail on Friday over the reform candidate favored by Bush and the NWO.....Now, Bush pushes Israel to attack Iran under the premise that a radical religious leader in Iran cannot soon hold the power of nuclear weapons....
Why do you avoid giving names? Who is the NWO candidate? Who is the radical religious candidate?
Rafsanjani is the former president, represents the "status quo" and is the one that proposes getting closer to the US and a privatization of Iran's assets. He is the one giving the good treatment in the Jewish News and he is a religious leader.
Ahmadinejad, by contrast, is not a religious leader but a former military figure who pledges socialism to redistribute wealth and step up efforts to counter Western "decadence" within Iran's Islamic society. This is the one the Jewish media portrays as "radical".
So if you say the "status-quo" will prevail you mean Rafsanjani, the one favoured by the US - contrary to ypour claims - , and when you say the "the reform candidate" you must mean Ahmadinejad, the one demonized by the media and not favored by the USA - contry to your claims.
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [09:38 ]
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>>..truth can coerce you to rethink and figure out the true best path for Israel's future and existence for a good future for Israel is one that extrapolates to a good future for all of us...
This is the cherry that tops SenderBerl's Zionist custard (not consistence enough to be a pie)
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by profile on 24.06.2005 [10:33 ]
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Xuma-i dont know why you are upset.Put aside the religious aspect of the article and relook at it,it is full of content.The article is trying too stop an outcome and it being published helps this as people become aware.If it is a Jewish website and article then all the better because people in Israel may read it and stop any attack on Iran.
I dont think you quite realise Xuma.That if a nuclear weapon is used,it will not be Iran attacking back with 1 0r 3 retalitary weapons and life for the rest of us moves on.It will be retalitory from China and that will mean the potential of thousands upon thousands of Nuclear warheads being used.Life for everyone on this planet will change foreveryone(not for the better).You and your family as well as mine will not survive it.If a news article by someone has the potential to stop such action being taken then that is a good thing.
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by Xuma100 on 24.06.2005 [16:36 ]
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>>The article is trying too stop an outcome
The article is pushing a Zionist agenda, the disguise to make it go unnoticed is the pretension to stop an imaginary catastrophe. Psy-Op 101.
Part of the agenda is perpetuating the myth of an "Arab/Islamic" terrorist network and theo other is the idea of Israel having a riht to occupy Palestine.
I just pointed it out so that people can make a choice of acepting that or not.
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by DevilsAdvocate on 24.06.2005 [19:29 ]
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I am not a zionist. I am a Humanist. I posted this obviously jewish mail to pass information to the likes of you. I have no idea if it is true, or what the motive is behind the info. What I can tell you is that I've read what this site wrote in 1998. Every single thing they predicted has come true, and it sounded totally ridiculous back then.
You must surely admit that things are going awry. The governments that we "elected" suddenly seem incapable of enacting the will of the people. Only yesterday the yanks have allowed confiscation of personal property for corporate use. That is wrong.
Xuma, do me a favour, explain how this article pushes the zionist agenda. I can;t see it. It's not promoting the expansion of Isreal, it's asking the Isrealis to give up their wicked ways and return to God. Is that their agenda? I don't know, please explain.
Finally, I have two questions for you:
1) What do you think is going on in the world?
2) Why have you taken to stalking Profile??
Go with Gods Peace, meant for all of us. God Created all, Jew, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Atheist etc. Truth is True, and nothing we say or do will alter that.
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by Xuma100 on 25.06.2005 [00:05 ]
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before asking me any questions please care to aswer the ones you left unanswered first:
- What Arab/Islamic terrorists are you talking about, DevilsAdvocate ?
- Why do you avoid giving names? Who is the NWO candidate? Who is the radical religious candidate?
- Whose intelligence and whose models are you talking about? Who is "our"?
>>explain how this article pushes the zionist agenda
I hate to repeat myself, but since you didn't care to read it here it is again: Part of the zionist agenda is perpetuating the myth of an "Arab/Islamic" terrorist network:
"The further truth is that they provided Arab/Islamic terrorists an improved training field to enhance their skills. "
Zionism is the ideology that defends the right of jews to occupy Palestinian territory, in case you didn't know - I doubt you didn't - like this:
"..figure out the true best path for Israel's future and existence for a good future for Israel is one that extrapolates to a good future for all of us... "
So if you're not a Zionist then you're a brainwashed AmeriKKKan, same thing.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 25.06.2005 [07:32 ]
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I agree with Xuma on this one. Interesting as it is in the possibilities it raises, I feel the senario painted is rather 'abstract'
US move to align themselves with OPEC and Arab/Islamic interests against Israel.
Huh? Its not up to Bush as to whether he decided to pull the plug on 'IsrayHell' The dual citizenship billionaires coropration owners tell Bush what to do. You think Bush is smart enough to actually 'plan' something?
If Iran is attacked by the US and so called 'Israyhell' The Guerria warfare will be deadly for Americans. Just about EVERY citizen will oppose the US and absolutely so called 'Israyhells' presence on its soil. In my experience, the Iranian people are more educated about the zionist rot than many other Muslims. Their opposition to such scum will be absolutely fierce.
Iran (if it has nukes - which I doubt, - Iran keeps the doubt there on purpose as a layer of security) would only nuke so called 'Israyhell' if Iran was attacked by such a weapon first. You think that evil wobbling blob sharon will invite the possibility of his own doom? No way!. Most bullies rely on their position of thuggery in the thought that they will not face retribution.
Irans Govt is nothing like Iraqs. IT is a legitimate democratic state. Removing the Iranian Govt would not give the new Iranian Govt (US puppets) carte blanch to re-allocate Irans oil and gas. The present contracts with China would still have to be honoured. If no then China might support Iranaion opposition to the puppets. There would not be enough governemntal control to allow severance with China contratual claim over the gas.
China to lose its new global political leadership position,
China does not have such a position. It has the position of large economic might which, very unusually, is being played in spearaton to militarism. It is incredibly passive in matters of military action away from its own borders. There is NO way China will get involved in an Iran-US-Israel conflict. No Way.
I cannot accept everything Senderberl says came true. IF it did, then of course it would mean that Senderberl are part of the NWO!!!!
Their articles are apalling to read and abstract information from.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 25.06.2005 [07:47 ]
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I agree about something weird is going on about: governments that we "elected" suddenly seem incapable of enacting the will of the people.
Unfortunately they are not going agsint the will of the people. The mass media has seen to that. Us reading posts and articles on mirror-world are actually very privilaged. We get news and debate closer to the real situation than the masses get through mass media. From my own experience we subsconsciously are over generous in the assume the level of knowledge that the masses have on these issues of Global politics. Many of my collegues are utterly in the dark about whats actually going on in the world. They are too distracted by their highly insulated lives. Try and discuss these issues with most people and they look at you as if you are crazy! They are coccooned.
We ourselves, out of our deep interest of these global matters subconsciously think our knowledge is widespread. It is not. Most people still buy the official 9-11 story. NO mass media organisation has put forward the very real and substantive questioning of the official story. The ignorance out there is massive.
Even if Polls show that most people disagree with what the Govts are doing, (as on Iraq) then it makes no difference. bLiar, Howard and Bush got re-elected. In Spain ony major blunder by that pig Aznar blew it for him. He tried to use the 9-11 based War Of Terror to Spains Basque problem. Thats what caused him to lose. If he kept it against Islam, then he would have won. The thing is, Noting is being done against these politicians and that is why they seem able to defy international law and flippant poll results against them.
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by profile on 25.06.2005 [08:31 ]
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China will fight in this war and it will escalate no doubt into nuclear war.There is a larger point that people tend to forget which is the PNAC doctrine which is a doctrine for a "One World Goverenance" "New World Order" The PNAC Doctrine was made policy.China has said no to this.An invasion of Iran is a statement of intent regarding that PNAC policy,China will be forced to act,because it cannot allow itself to be isolated.If Iran is attacked,I feel China will Fight not because of Iran but because of China and it will go nuclear and China will use 1st Nuke strike option.This is not about a nuke reactor in Iran or Oil it is all about PNAC Policy which is one world governance.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 25.06.2005 [09:46 ]
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But if nukes are lobbed left right and centre, there wont be anything left to govern. The OWG (One World governemnt) does not have to rely of China going to war. China I am sure is smart enought to realise that if it did go to war the financial, environmental, destructive costs would be crippling. There not going to war on behalf of a 3rd party. I'm familiar with your views profile from previous posts but nuke warfare destroyes ALL concepts of NWO and secret alliances etc.
If the concept of the illuminat are to be believed, then the war is just a fasade anyway. The leaders of china (a country whose main symbol is that of a dragon) are probably already in the folds of the illuminati.
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by profile on 25.06.2005 [11:24 ]
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Mike:these people the NWO are very dangerous,corrupt and frustrated people.These people were so close to acheiving their goal of "one world governance".Islam was the only threat to them and because it did not have WMDs,war for these people could be controlled and eventually the NWO brought in.What has happened is that all the Islamic countries have said No,China has stood up and said No,because of China and what was occuring in the Pacific rim Japan and 2 Koreas have said No.Now those 4 are alligned they will be going to all the other countries in the pacific rim and forging alliances that will no doubt be Anti-NWO.
Venezuela has said No,Argentina and other South American countries Except Brazil have said No.
A massive Anti-NWO Coalition has been formed and all because of China.China is a powerful country that is why all these countries have rallied round China.If China is taken out that Anti-NWO Coalition falls away.Therefore these people will be looking at ways too weaken China.
The Whole world can see for itself what a "New World Order" run by these people really means(Tyranny for all).An attack on Iran is a statement of intent regarding PNAC.China may press that button,because it is a logical and not emotional descision.That PNAC Policy has to be Stopped and all those peoples involved in it.I am decent, kind person and i would press that button knowing what it would mean,events would lead to no other choice because of PNAC.If i see that then the Chinese Military Council will see that also.We are way-way passed negotiation stages between the 2 parties.This can only lead 2 ways the NWO back right of the PNAC Policy or Nuclear war and China in my belief will press that button it would be the only logical thing to do if PNAC Continues its course.
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by Xuma100 on 25.06.2005 [12:08 ]
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(profile) >>I am decent, kind person and i would press that button knowing what it would mean
That's what your mamma thinks, everybody else here knows you're psychotic.
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by TerraHertz on 25.06.2005 [14:15 ]
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I recall another discussion here (long ago), on the wisdom of posting articles that are obvious propaganda/bullshit. The general conclusion then seemed to be that its best to have the bad posted along with the good, for several reasons. For one thing, it gives insight into the way others are thinking. It also in many cases points to truth - in that truth lies in the opposite direction to the propagandist's lies.
Personally, although I agree that Sender Berl is a religious fruitcake, I still find his/their articles interesting.
Also, I too feel that we are on the verge of major, global nuclear war. Call it a hunch if you like. My view is that the dynamics of the interaction between the USA and Israel are very, very complicated.
Each has the other by the blackmail balls. Sharon knows all about who did what on 911 (Isreali spies shadowed the whole buildup, and may or may not have actually helped.) Israel has almost total infiltration of the US government & military. But Isreal cannot exist without US economic & military support.
Yet the Neocons appear to be tired of dancing to Israel's tune. Recent comment from bush, that the 'Isreal problem would be solved once and for all'. How could it be 'solved', 'finally', other than by Israel ceasing to exist?
So, I suspect the Bushies have been setting Israel up - to attack Iran, using US-supplied intelligence and bunker-buster bombs, and an assurance that the plan of attack guarantees complete destruction of Iran's ability to strike back. Except, the US knows it doesn't, and that Israel is instead guaranteed to become a glowing glass desert.
Iran 'does not have nuclear weapons' - correct. The nuclear weapons in Iran are all owned and operated by Russians. Not to mention the nuclear weapons China might toss into the fight.
Its very ironic - the movie 'War of the Worlds' (remake of the classic) is opening here in Australia on June 29th.
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by profile on 25.06.2005 [15:13 ]
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Even though Iran has done business with Russia before,there will be no Russian Soldiers or Russian Nukes on Iranian Soil.If there are Nukes it will be Chinese.
People should remember that 70% of Israelis are Ex-Russian citizens or Eastern Europeans.The Oligarchs Control Russia-just take a look at a list of Russian-billionaires all of those Israelis have dual nationality and passports Russian-Isareli.
What does Iran say it hates,who its enemy is Zionists.Dont you think Iran knows that 70% of Israelis are Russian with dual passports.
I hardly think that Iran is going to let Russia anywhere near its military apparatus.Yes it has bought some Russian weapons previously that is different from allowing a third party into the military fold.China is behind Iran and Not Russia.
Russia is the Trojan horse and these countries know this.
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by DevilsAdvocate on 25.06.2005 [18:09 ]
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I don't know where to start!
XUMA.... I didn't say anything about
What Arab/Islamic terrorists are you talking about, DevilsAdvocate ?
- Why do you avoid giving names? Who is the NWO candidate? Who is the radical religious candidate?
- Whose intelligence and whose models are you talking about? Who is "our"?
The post is from Sender Berl.
MIKE-MALAYSIA.... you don't go to the UK much, do you? Despite the crap the media attempt to pour down the punters throats, no one believes it any more. Any pub you go into, where they're not talikng about football, you will hear people slagging off blair and labour and the bollocks that joe public have been fed. The media has stretched its credibility to breaking point. No one belives them any more.
Further, no one with half a brain would consider this as planning by monkey bush. bush is as much a lap dog to the nwo as blair. The nwo, as you know, have no national identity, but are a group believing that their education and skills put them above other humans and therefore in a position to rule. They consider you and I to be the same as cattle. And the way we behave, who can blame them! The nwo doesn't give a toss if the usa is roasted, or israel turned to glass.
ALL... I don't think many of you have read much at Sender Berl. His book "Recapturing America" predicted a controlled implosion of the usa back in 97. Look what's happening. From Uncle Sam to the new nazis in four short years.
Finally, PROFILE..... the Isreali Russians are people who fled there prior to Putin. Some are going back. Opportunists who wanted to make a fast buck.... and why not? In the 90's Russia was being bled to death by the greedy and corrupt jumping on the free market band wagon. Now, a true leader has emerged. He believes, I'm surw, in keeping Russian resources for Russians, not a few shareholders. He believes in his Country and Countrymen, and all they have achieved. And I really do think that he has delivered Sunburn mssiles to Iran. Whether they are nuclear tipped or not, I have no idea.
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by profile on 25.06.2005 [18:43 ]
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All of these Countries are all on the same agenda and are controlled by the same people.They always play "divide and conquer" and each country has wears a hat and plays a role.The Countries are Israel-U.S-Russia and EU.
There is Israel that weras the hat Mr Pyscho,who was these peoples dog on a leash inorder to keep the Arab/Islamics inline,Mr Pyscho can only play Mr Pyscho,thats its role.Then there is the U.S Mr Nasty the U.S is nasty,nasty at the U.N,nasty politically,nasty militarily.Its Role is to be Nasty all the time.Then there is the EU Mr Pretend Innocence,its role is too be the good guy,go and smooth things over politically,"nothing to do with me governor" an air above Mr Pyscho and Mr Nasty,it works with these 2 but from a different angle and approach.Lastly there is Mr Anti Mr Nast,I dont like Mr Nasty that is the hat Russia wears the role it plays and everytime Mr Nasty Roars up Mr Anti Mr Nasty tells the world i am against Mr Nasty.The U.N is Mr appeaser,its job is to appease,but actually do nothing,it was created by Mr.Pretend innocence,Mr Nasty and Mr Anti Mr Nasty after WW2 and it works on behalf of them.Mr Nasty role is to bludgeon and threaten countries into surrendering its Sovereignty over to this controlling group the NWO.Mr Pretend innocence is using a different approach through negotiation and political reform it gains control of a country by infiltrating internal infastructure of a country.Mr Anti-Mr Nastys Role is to go to all the countries that are against Mr Nasty and Mr Innocent and form alliances,sell the country weapons,put small bases on that countries territory,plan countermeasures etc.If War breaks out either Mr Anti Mr Nasty takes that country out surgically from inside or gives that country misleading military information leading to its inevitable downfall.The U.N Plays the role of heading the future NWO structure.
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by profile on 25.06.2005 [18:57 ]
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Mr Pyscho-Israel,Mr Nast-U.S,Mr Pretend Innocence,Mr Appeaser.Those are the Hats they wear and role each plays.What has happened that when the Iraq war broke out.Mr Nasty played its role being nasty,it went to Iran and was Mr Nasty Threatened and bullied Iran for political and economic reform and access and control of its natural resources.It Did Not Work.
A month later Mr Pretend Innocence knocks on Irans Door and states exactly the same but from a different angle,whilst it is enquiring it pulls the dog leash on Mr Pyscho and the dog barks a few times.It Did Not work,Iran rebuffed Mr Innocence.A month later Mr Anti-Mr Nasty knocks on Irans door and says look You need to be carefull with Mr Pyscho and Mr Nasty heres some intelligence etc you need protection we will sell you some weapons and can we place a base on Iranian soil to protect Iran and by the way can we have access and control to your natural resources because we are your friend.
Straight after Mr Anti Mr Nasty left,China knocked on the door of Iran and said "Are you aware the Mr Pyscho,Mr Nasty,Mr Innocence,Mr Anti Mr Nasty are all working together,just from a different angle"
What did Iran do.It sold the largest ever oil and rights deal in history to CHINA.Mr nasty,Mr Innocence,Mr Anti Mr Nasty got zippo,now to me that says an awful lot on where Irans allegiance really lies.
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by Xuma100 on 28.06.2005 [10:15 ]
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What does Iran say it hates,who its enemy is Zionists.Dont you think Iran knows that 70% of Israelis are Russian with dual passports.
The fact that Russa's Zionists fled to Israel only speaks good things about Russia, contrary to your claims, and every country should get rid of them too. Israel is the best place from them. Others are convicted of theft and inprisoned. What's the alternative for Russia to get rid of its Zionists? a bullet to the back of their heads?
Stop demonizing Russia, profile, you and your favourite web site - Senderberl - are the Zionists.
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