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Airbus Outsells Boeing at Paris Air Show...again
By: Various on: 20.06.2005 [14:52 ] (2294 reads)
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Airbus announced 138 new passenger plane orders and commitments at Le Bourget on Thursday, taking to 261 the total number of jets it has sold so far at the Paris Air Show — as Boeing called it a day with 146.
The trade dispute between the EU and the United States intensified after Washington filed a World Trade Organization complaint last month citing development aid to Airbus, and Brussels countersued over support to Boeing.
ACE Aviation Holdings Inc. unit Air Canada said late on Saturday that it canceled a $6 billion order for 32 jets from Boeing Co...
Germanwings Orders 18 More A319s...
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by profile on 20.06.2005 [15:46 ]
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This is about the only good thing comming out economically,it is about the only thing that China doesnt yet sell.No doubt in 7 years there will be a Ying Yang Bus that will compete with Boeing and Airbus.The only difference between them will be that the Ying Yang Bus will be 1/10th of the price,net future result Boeing and Airbus will go bust.
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by profile on 20.06.2005 [15:51 ]
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by Econ on 20.06.2005 [16:08 ]
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The Airbus orders just confirms how America’s failed foreign policy has led to its continued deindustralization.
Boeing was our last hope in terms of having SOMETHING of high technology value to EXPORT.
High-priced military junk to poor Third World nations is about the only thing we have left to export besides the worthless dollar now that we are running a food deficit.
This is certainly NOT ENOUGH for us to reindustrialize our nation and restore ourselves to prosperity.
Boeing is now a 'systems integrator' which means all the major airplane parts are built in foreign countries and Boeing's just assembles the product in Renton.
This is similar to the scam the Japanese uses where they just assemble cars here with all the major parts imported from Japan and the US calls that manufacturing when it is nothing but a clever scheme for the Japanese to evade tariffs.
Even the worthless and declining dollar didn't make Boeing's products competitive with the rising euro.
I was surprised that the orders weren't announced in euros,
There is nothing to prevent the contracts from being negotiated in Euros, however.
What we are seeing is a tilt of the Muslims/Hindus and their ENORMOUS spending power towards Europe. The price the US is paying for supporting the poor jews in Occupied Palestine who can offer us nothing.
All this spells economic DOOM for the US. We have angered the Arabs and Muslims by our continued, useless and costly support for Israel; support that offers no strategic, political or economic benefits to the US.
Israel has become a crippling economic and parasitc burden on America.
The poor and miserable jews in their shitty ghetto in Occupied Palestine will never be able to order $2 billion worth of aircraft from Boeing.
They have no means to sustain themselves except with American welfare and Germam reparations that they exploit with their holocaust hoax.
Now Americans are left in a hopeless and desperate position of using our military to force open the Arab, Muslim and Asian markets.
America seems to think that Muslims will want to buy our goods and services while we point guns at them and occupy their lands.
The Arabs have found an effective tool to limit America's military aggression and hegemony: ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS TO STOP BUYING OUR PRODUCTS.
It is working beautifully.
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by Xuma100 on 20.06.2005 [16:12 ]
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>>...No doubt in 7 years there will be a Ying Yang Bus that will compete with Boeing and Airbus.
will you have the guts to ride one of those?... once again your tunnel vision and nate of all European do not let you see the biggest issue of aeronautics: TRUST as a result of PROVEN SAFETY RECORDS. You must build yourself a world-wide reputation of safe flying, and this is not something a chinese sweat-shop can produce overnight. Sorry to spoil your latest Chinese wet dream, profile.
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by profile on 20.06.2005 [16:20 ]
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I am probably a lot older than yourself and have seen much.30 years ago Japan made No cars,it then started making cars 10 years later those cars like Toyotah were rubbish the quality was poor and they kept breaking down etc,10 years after that the quality and service,style improved.Today Toyotah is one of the top selling cars in the world along with other Asian car manufacturers.The same situation is occuring again only this time it is with aircraft and with China and not with Japan.It is only a matter of time.Read the article link i placed above and then check around through a web search.
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by FromPortugal on 20.06.2005 [16:45 ]
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Profile, for aircraft industry 7 years is nothing.
It is not possible for China, to have something to compete with Airbus or Boeing in just 7 years.
In that time, only exists one country that probably will compete with these giants, Russia could do it, they have the potential and they are trying hard to restart.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 21.06.2005 [05:03 ]
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I wish that Embraer and Tupolev would consider a merger in order to become stronger so that they can compete against Airbus and Boeing.
Does anyone else here think that would be a good idea?
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by Xuma100 on 21.06.2005 [14:34 ]
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>> ... I am probably a lot older than yourself and have seen much...
let me laugh loud, profile, at your claim of false authority... your age is irrelevant to the fact that the air industry and the car industry are not comparable at all. Cars don't fly, profile, huge difference.
Read the article link i placed above
your link contains a declaration of intentions, but if you nelieve that the world will massively trust their lives to Chinese made airplanes in one decade youare a fool. As I said, and anyone who works in aerospace can tell you, there are a lot of safety requirements before anything is allowed to fly... let alone with hundreds of passangers in it. Get some education profile, stop guessing.
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by Xuma100 on 21.06.2005 [14:54 ]
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Russian planes might be inredible machines, but have a terrible reputation. They were plagued by accidents that were played by the Western media to the detriment of the Rudssian reputation for safe flight.
The Russian case illustrates my point about China or any other developing country trying to build a civilian airliner of their own. A company buying airplanes for transporting civilians does not just look at the price, but the safety record of the entities that design them and builds them... and those safety records depend on the airines exploiting them too. So we are playing here with two unknowns that determine the success of a passanger airplane. Only a generous amount of time with incident-free commercial exploitation can make you competitive in air industry, not an overnight hack job in a Chinese sweat-shop selling at 1/10th of the price.
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