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Interesting article by Mike-Malaysia on 02.06.2005 [19:22 ]

But the US pigs do this hardware frequently do they not? China would be seriously angry if the US nuked N.Korea not least becasue of the nuclear fallout that would poison China. South Korea itself would also be affected. And despite the US and UK pigs from letting it be known that their nuke aresenal can now be used as a first strike weapon (Which incidently, I never remember giving them the authority to oblitterate people without first being attacked!!!) I cant imagine the people of the world tolerating a US nuke attack without, again, themselves being attacked first. If there was anything to get the public to revot against these atrociously filthy rotscum that governs on a fake mandate, then a nuke attack would be it. I see you also try and fit the Chinese domension into it too FromPortugal. If the US did attack N.Korea, I guess China would, rightfully, reclaim Tiawan. N. Korea is called a 'secretive country'. Perhaps under all that secrecy are Russian and Chinese defense hardware. I cant see it being in the interests of China OR Russia to let the US pigs attack N.Korea. The Chinese are already a superpower. But their superpower status has been the result of playing the economic game more successfully than the US, somewhat more ethically one would presume, and not via global warfare and global black-flag/psy-ops. Re: Stealth. One day I was pondering about the stealth craft. I realised their air in invulerability was all a smokescreen. No matter WHAT stealth capabilities an aircraft has, they ALWAYS leave a heat trail. I pieced together a series of artifical intelligence processes that could track the heat trail of the craft, which could ALWAYS see the craft and easily distinguish decoy flared. All you have to do is use an Infra red camera to plot out the heat density plume of the craft and its velocity vector. The known parameters of the stralth craft can be used to 'fuzzy logic' the heat vector parameters to obtain damn accurate plotting of the craft. Dummy flares can simply be identified and ignored tracking the craft with supreme persistance. Then simply program the missile to intercept and ensure, on detonation, a variety of ultra high energy explosive fragmentation adds to the damage the stealth would suffer. Simple :) I am sure such features already exist on Russian and Chinese surface-to-air or air-to-air missiles. (as they probalby do in the US UK French German and Italian military) Stealth my arse! Thats the thing about yank pigs and technology, they forget about human ingenuity.

Japan-S.Korea alligned with China by profile on 02.06.2005 [19:47 ]

That Whole Pacific Rim area is aligned with China.The U.S Will make a lot of Noise about North Korea but do Nothing.The Reason is that if it came close to Warfare and it was deemed that Nukes Would be Used China will pick up the Phone and let the U.S Know that if it Nukes North Korea,China will Nuke Europe,and You will see the U.S Stop Military action all together.I pointed Out Before that the Pacific Rim is the Most Industrialised area in the World with a large population,formidable growth and where ultimately the World would be run from and certain parties cant accept that.China is aware that the U.S is a tool being used to do the dirty work but not to gain the benefit.Any Military computer Before would run a scenario that if the U.S attacked North Korea it would go nuclear and Japan-Koreas-China would be caught in the crossfire as well as Chinese and U.S ICBMs Crossing each other in the sky destroying each other.Leading to U.S-China-Japan-Koreas-Malaysia-Indonesia etc all being destroyed and "Hey Presto" Europe is left Standing.China Realises this Scenario and so does Japan-S.Korea and Other Pacific Rim Countries.China has Covertly alligned all those Nations together that will only Show In Time of war.An Attack on North Korea is an attack on China.We That Live in Europe Should Pray the U.S Doesnot attack Korea withj Nukes because China will Vapourise Europe.The U.S-Russia-Europe and Israel all Work Together and China knows this.You will only see those relationships openly in times of war.

US scum by Mike-Malaysia on 02.06.2005 [20:42 ]

Why wouldn;t China say it would nuke eurpoe and not america instead? Sure to threaten to nuke the nukers would stop the nukers niking in the first place. Anyway, conventional opinion is that N.Korea might Nuke Japan if it is attacked. The yank pigs are just huffing and puffing again. They dare not take on people that strong.

Profile by Mike-Malaysia on 02.06.2005 [20:54 ]

U.S-China-Japan-Koreas-Malaysia-Indonesia etc all being destroyed then the life in europe would be a living hell. The planet would almost certainly die. But I feel if the US did nuke N.Korea China isn't going nuke anybody and risk being nuked itself. N.Korea will be seriously damaged (I presume only enough nuke power will be used to destroy N.Koreas U/Pu facilities and its weapons., perhaps neutron bombs would be used, or more dangerously US mini nukes as the international condemnation against the US would be much less. Post-nuke, the US would have to pay China and S.Korea billions in compensation for contamination an so forth. The UN would collapse (something many of us would be happy about) It just aint gonna happen. The No country will use nukes as a 1st strike weapon. Its all bullying tactics by the USUK. Remember its the War Of Terror. The US will if it decided to attack (which it wont due to the N.Korans having a nuke defence) then it would be conventional or by some special ops team, or bribe some poor korean dude to assassinate Jong.

Mike by profile on 02.06.2005 [20:57 ]

The EU Wanted The Whole Pacific Rim Destroyed,because of its population,Industrialisation growth and where inevitably the World would be run from.The U.S Does The Dirty Work for Europe.The U.S is Expendable.If U.S attacked Those Countries The U.S would also be destroyed in the mele as China also has ICBMs.So any President-Congress-Senator would not approve a strike on N.Korea knowing this.Therefore Taking this route shows that the President-Congress-Senators are Not Working for the Benefit of the U.S people they are Working for the Benefit of Outside Sources(Europe) and No one can blame the Jews or Israel for any action on N.Korea. You Spend a lot of time writing about the Bilderbergs/Illuminati etc and yet you cant see that they are European Organisations ? 1.Reasons-(Given because N.Korea has Nukes.True Reason to affecuate war in the pacific rim area where Japan-Koreas-Malaysia-Koreas etc all get destroyed.Because of high population and Major Industrialised area. 2.Consequences of action against N.Korea.Japan-Koreas-Malaysia other pacific rim countries Destroyed also U.S Completely destroyed. 3 Benefit.Benefit from those countries getting destroyed including the U.S goes to the EU which suddenly become the Top Dog on The Planet. Conclusion.U.S Is being used as a tool by Europe To affecuate War in the Pacific Rim where all these countries are Vapourise.U.S Is Expendable.

A faded and desperate empire looking increasingly irrelevant by Econ on 02.06.2005 [21:27 ]

"This is an unpardonable provocation tantamount to turning a gun mouth to the reunification fete of the Korean nation celebrating the fifth..." The US is desperate. Just like the reunification of East and West Germany signalled the end of the Soviet Empire as the Soviet Union was collasping with its failed war in Afghanistan, so too will the reunification of North and South Korea mean the end of the American empire. Just last week they were huge demonstrations in South Korea calling on US troops to leave. The US has been desperately trying to find a way to prevent the reunification of North and South, a reunification that will occur anyway. With the reunification of North and South Korea, the US would be unable to justify the need to have military bases in Korea and Japan, just as the US economy is collasping under its staggering debt and the war in Iraq. Iraq has shown that the US military cannot sustain itself in two different war theatres and the show of force is hardly going to intimidate North Korea. China will no permit a war in North Korea simply because China doesn't North Korean refugees flooding into China. The US military cannot reverse the US economic decline and without the economic clout the US is irrelevant. The danger that North Korea poses is not its nuclear arsensal but the simple fact that they do not permit the worthless dollar in their economy and the US cannot control the North Korean through IMF and World Bank loans.

prifile our zionist - nonsensical - troll by Xuma100 on 02.06.2005 [21:48 ]

...the President-Congress-Senators ... are Working for the Benefit of Outside Sources(Europe) . ... Yeah right, such a sharp analysis... never mind they're appointed and working for the giant AmeriKKKan industrial and military complex, the same one that ruined South America (according to zionist profile that was Europe's fault too). Profile, our persistent zionist troll is desperate to hogwash the crimes of the United Sods and Zion with conspiracy theories copied from zionist site senderberl.com .

American Apocalypse Soon by BlackPanther on 02.06.2005 [23:41 ]

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Ha ! Its a hollow threat ! by grandpa_jack on 03.06.2005 [01:11 ]

OK, lets say,, USA nuks NK using air power. Will they destroy NK's military ? -Nope. Will air strikes knock out all of NK's weapons ? -Nope. If US were to attack where will they get a land army to hold the ground ? The fact is,, the US military is overstreched now,, and the US infantry,, ain't got the guts. A nuclear war, (from a safe distance,) in North Korea, would at best, knock out part of NK s weapons, and maybe kill Kim Jong Ill. After which, NK would have a new leader ( who ?) and they would be mighty pissed off.! My opinion, this buildup , is a lot of crap. US hasn't the guts , the money, or the troops for a fight,, and airpower will not win the war alone..

Will China attack NK by land ? by grandpa_jack on 03.06.2005 [01:30 ]

A perfect plan, to knock out NK, would be US airpower, coordinated with massive Chinease Infantry. NK would die ..FAST ! Can China be convinced to attack it's ally North Korea ? I don't know. But.. Who built China, from an agricultural economy into an industrail super power ? Answer: Western bankers. Who owns, and controls China's economy ? Who prints China's money ? Answer: I suspect western bankers. Which leads me to a conclusion.. If Western bankers own, and control China's economy,, and if Western power elites demand China make war on it's ally North Korea....and if China is given the command to attack... Will China attack North Korea ? I don't know.. But I do know,, that when push comes to shove,, nations act in their own best interest. And,, if it is in the economic best interest of China to attack North Korea,, it probably will.. I also know,, that US airpower alone will not knock out North Korea,, and the only land army available,, is China..

Pacific Rim? by Yasis on 03.06.2005 [02:00 ]

"That Whole Pacific Rim area is aligned with China." Which countries specifically are aligned? Pacific Rim is a vague term.

who knows what China might do? by observer on 03.06.2005 [09:51 ]

Remember when the Chinese invaded Vietnam just after the Americans were booted out? The Vietnamese defeated them too!

China and Vietnam by Yasis on 03.06.2005 [10:57 ]

Before China invaded Vietnam in 1979, Vietnam had invaded Cambodia and overthrown the Pol Pot regime, which was supported by China. It was a slap in the face for China and Vietnamese power had to be checked. At a time when the Vietnamese had just repelled the US military and united their land in 1975, an unchecked Vietnam could start to have more ideas in the south-east asia region. This invasion by China was to be the last major military operation by the PRC up till today.

aye,the Vietnamese were the real liberators... by observer on 03.06.2005 [11:06 ]

in the region-not the USA or China with their stinking murderer Pol Pot!

US and Pol Pot by Yasis on 03.06.2005 [11:48 ]

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very good article yasis,thanks by observer on 03.06.2005 [12:09 ]

we now see these same old Cold War zealots again and the same old double standards.Can you believe I really thought we were making some progress until Bush was elected?

No prob dude by Yasis on 03.06.2005 [13:14 ]

Truth is always stranger than some stupid stories in the mainstream media, trust me.

Grandpa Jack... by BlackPanther on 03.06.2005 [19:53 ]

has been smoking some crack again, with his fantasy tales about how Western bankers are going to order China to invade North Korea for them. Isn't it funny that whenever the USA or its "democratic" allies threaten to invade to bomb XYZ nation, certain people on this site always find a way to deflect attention from the true threats--which invariably are these same self-proclaimed democracies? Usually, this is done with ever more contrived conjecture and desperate propaganda spin. These people probably believe that the criminal USA-British invasion of Iraq wasn't really the fault of the US-UK, but was actually a secret plot by the French/Illuminati/globalist elites to make them look bad! Like all criminals, they wish to cover their own asses and project their own guilty conscience onto everyone else. To quote Michael Parenti again "they reverse the roles of victims and victimizers, warmongers and peacekeepers, reactionaries and reformers." Joseph Goebbels has nothing on them.

its huff and puff by Mike-Malaysia on 06.06.2005 [18:47 ]

This thread is already archived but It is important. Yes the US 'nuke 1st' policy is deeply alarming, but it will NOT nuke N.Korea first. I've said this many times and also in realtion to Iran. If a country is going to be nuked by the US, the ONLY way the US can be sure it wont be nuked in retaliation is IF it detstoys the WHOLE COUNTRY. This just isn;t going to happen. The entire world would be outgagred. Just about every civilian in the WORLD will instantly attack ANY American asset. The American people would start a revolution (a critical mass of 5% has been mentioned as being needed only) China could be severely poisoned by the US as would S.Korea and would the seas off N.Korea as would any nation down wind of the provailing winds in that area. Russia too would be very likely to be heavily poisoned. This just AINT gonna happen. The only reason why the US spends UTTERLY VAST sums of $ on 'conventional' arms is that it knows it cant use its nukes willy nilly. Nio way. It can only use them if attacked by NBC weapons. It IS sabre rattling, and it failing.

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