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Lavrov hints at more delays in S-300 delivery
By: Press TV on: 25.02.2010 [05:09 ] (1301 reads)
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Lavrov hints at more delays in S-300 delivery
Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:56:56 GMT
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has made comments that hint at further delays in the delivery of the S-300 missile defense system to Iran.
"The fact is that there is a contract, there are questions that need to be settled before the contract can be executed," said Lavrov, when asked when Russia would deliver the S-300 system to Iran.
“There are fundamental principles linked to the sale that we never, in accordance with our legislation, and according to our international obligations, take any actions that will lead to the destabilization of certain regions," Reuters quoted Lavrov as saying on Wednesday.
Russia's top diplomat said his comments did not refer only to the S-300 sale and hinted at the export by other countries of offensive weapons to Georgia by third countries.
"I never mentioned any political issues in the Middle East. I said there are certain principles we need to abide by when selling arms everywhere - Latin America, Middle East, the Caucasus region. We cannot sell weapons if that can lead to the destabilization of the regions in question," said Lavrov.
The S-300 system, which can fire at aircraft 120 kilometers (75 miles) away, features high jamming immunity and is able to simultaneously engage up to 100 targets.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=119427§ionid=351020101
by cosmo on 25.02.2010 [06:04 ]
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along with Putin and Medvedev as service men to the chabad lubavitch since there is a convergence of interest among the parties involved be it religious or economic or political.
Once one signs a contract there are no things to discusss , otherwie the contract should not have been signed at all.
What utter crap and what stupid logic??
Because it still the same ruling parties in both in Iran and Moscow. Nothing changed.
However, by keeping the contract Iran is exposing the type of rulers whose interests whatever they are, converge with ziointerersts and not in the interests of Russia.
Real Russia needs allies unless were are witnessing the theatrics of the zioNWO of a mirage conflictt of interest between the ziowest and Russia while in reality all are under the same Hat.
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by Toussaint-L'Ouverture on 25.02.2010 [06:59 ]
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is not Russia, but Iran. How many times must Russia renege bfefore Iran demonstrates even a shred of sovereign dignity and cancels the contract?
Iran is palying the role of a bitch in this scenario and displaying abject weakness and utter desperation.
Enough of the games! Cancel this, and ALL other contracts with Russia! Engage China to complete all contracts signed with Russia and signal, once and for all, your understanding that Russia is a EUROPEAN nation that has never dealt even handedly with Asian nations.
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by gazza on 25.02.2010 [08:27 ]
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The signs are there . Russia has not played honestly with Iran . First of all the years delay for the construction of the nuclear power station . The delay in the delivery of the S 300 system . Russia is probably on bed with the `US criminals and , probably it has been so for 65 years . There is a school of thought that say that the " cold war " was a smokescreen and there are off world bases run jointly by Russia and the US . It seem that the current reality is a complicated con job.
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by Deathtodubya on 25.02.2010 [10:56 ]
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do agree that the Cold War was more for show than anything else. Stalin did a deal with Roosevelt during the war, where everything would be divided up into spheres of interest and no-one was to touch the other. That's why Stalin betrayed the Greek communist resistance that was fighting the royalists and the British. The Greeks were genuinely supportive of communists and the Soviet Union unlike Poland, Romania, Czechs etc. but in the interests of the deal Stalin left them to die.
The wars in Korea and Vietnam and other places were not instigated by the Soviets and the Soviets were usually angered at them privately as they broke the agreement. Only reluctantly did they involve in covert and overt help to not lose face.
The US on the other hand was always false, always looking for ways to break the agreement. That's why after the Soviet Union collapsed they wasted no time in gobbling up as much of the world as they could. They only agreed to the deal in the first place because they knew they had no hope of defeating the Soviets in combat.
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by Syrian on 25.02.2010 [12:42 ]
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... You've gotta be kidding.
If Iran cancels the contract, then it will lose:
- credibility
- the right to obtain the S-300 weapon
Iran should constantly criticise Russia and make it pay for this betrayal.
By the way, Lavrov is a zionist through and through and accused Syria of supporting chechen rebels at one point. This accusation is so hiliarious since Russia is Syria's biggest trading partner and furthermore it fights off islamic terrorists all the time. The sad thing is many Russians buy it, I'm beginning to think that I always meet the best of Russians (the ones outside Russia). I'm beginning to think people inside Russia proper aren't very clever. :(
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by Lima-P on 25.02.2010 [14:30 ]
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for them, starting with Lavrov. Poiuytr has another take on the S-300, namely that it's what Russia uses to tease the west, just as China uses its on again-off again bond sales to keep west on its toes. Joe Vialls, if anyone remembers, used to say Russia had armed both Iran and Syria to the teeth to keep them out of west reach - and that was already back in 2005.
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by chestergimli on 25.02.2010 [14:43 ]
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Either poop or get off the pot as the saying goes. It may be as gazza has said, all a smokescreen. The power lies with the international Jewish financial cabal. And it was the Jewish zionists that captured Russia in the first place in 1917. Could be that as they had the whole western world against true communism which is practiced by the Catholic Church and the Judean Essenes of the past, then they dumped it. They have kept communism alive in certain governments. But as a whole, it is dead. Could be they did this so that they could get away with their rape of the wealth and resources of the whole world. I have read of the Blessed Mary's parents, Anne and Joachim, who split their flocks into three. The best third they gave to the temple. The second best third they gave to the poor. The poorest third they kept for themselves. Would that the whole world's wealthy would humbly live like this but they won't. So God will have to bring them down. But this time he will bring them down for good. He is going to destroy the medium of exchange. Then they will have to distribute their goods.
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by djandjolik on 25.02.2010 [15:28 ]
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Russia delayed in the delivery of the S-300 missile defense system to Iran, but Belarus not (send to Iran through Belarus).
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by Syrian on 25.02.2010 [19:20 ]
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I can confirm that Syria has the S-300 system and my past information had Iran in possession of it as well, but I'm no longer sure about the later.
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by Lima-P on 25.02.2010 [19:33 ]
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Syria, then 99% chances the Iranians have it as well.
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by gmmonko on 25.02.2010 [23:20 ]
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Iran still got some old rocket defense batteries left by the US during the Shah reign and that was also the basis for further Iranian weapon development.
Components for building a defense force hardware have to be mostly imported, by the way.
Russia thinks it can delay its fate being destroyed by the US by playing the Iranian card. This in fact is all what the weak no longer capable Russian military complex can do.
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by cosmo on 26.02.2010 [20:51 ]
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If Iran was so weak then the ziowest with the zious and its talmudst zionists would have attacked it long ago.
Iran does not need to have a nuclear program they have nuclear weapons and any zioidiot who wants to try that just do it.
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by Syrian on 26.02.2010 [20:52 ]
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You're wrong about Syria, sorry. I've got visual conformation, I won't say any more as not to jeopardise the security of Syria.
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by Iron_Clay on 26.02.2010 [21:11 ]
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China has more to lose than Russia when Iran's destroyed ...from losing Iran as an oil supply.
So going the Chinese way seems obvious ... BUT
__But ... China is also in the nuclear fuel selling business and business ia war to the Chinese.
The nuclear fuel selling business would be worth much more to China than a few S-300's and the long term interests of China may be fine tuned here.
If China was at all interested in selling weapons to Iran don't you think they would have already made the deal offer??
No Iran is alone against the world terrorists and unless she can build and prove a nuclear weapons program complete ... Iran is a sheet of glass and soon.
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by Iron_Clay on 26.02.2010 [21:16 ]
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“There are fundamental principles linked to the sale that we never, in accordance with our legislation, and according to our international obligations, take any actions that will lead to the destabilization of certain regions,"
In English that says
"When Iran is willing to but all it's nuclear fuel off Russia, Russia will see clear to fulfill it's contract with the S-300 systems."
Until that time Iran is fucked.
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by Syrian on 26.02.2010 [21:33 ]
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You've been saying this for many years now. Have you ever considered the possibility that if America were really intending to attack they would have already done it, to use your china logic?
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by LittleHelper on 26.02.2010 [22:15 ]
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Reading all those comments above, one might get
the impression as if those S-300 air defense systems
would be the only possible defense for Iran.
This is completely false. Iranian urban centers are
embedded between two mountainous regions in
the north west and the south east. For an attacker
this is a very difficult terrain, as he first has to cross
at least one of those mountainous regions to get
access to the most important urban centers of Iran.
This makes an invasion of Iran extremely expensive,
if not impossible.
The only option for a potential attacker would be, if
he could manage to destroy most of the Iranian
nuclear facilities in some kind of aerial blitzkrieg.
But even this is an uncertain approach, as it is not
so clear, how many nuclear facilities really exist
in Iran. May be only half of them are known to the
West, and if they are destroyed, Iran could simply
carry on with the hidden ones.
In my view, the West would do the Iranian leadership
a great favor, if for example Israel or the US would
attack the most visible Iranian nuclear facilities.
There are 70 millions of Iranian inhabitants, and
nothing would unite them more than a fierce
military attack against their country carried out
by an outside enemy.
If Iran would get the S-300 air defense systems,
arial attacks against Iranian nuclear facilities
would be in frustration from the beginning.
Such a deterrence is not necessarily an advantage
for the Iranian leadership, as there would be no
enemy to blame for their own mistakes and
mismanagement.
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by djandjolik on 27.02.2010 [01:07 ]
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"Russia thinks it can delay its fate being destroyed by the US by playing the Iranian card. This in fact is all what the weak no longer capable Russian military complex can do."
This is funny if militarily (like Russia has no stock of defensive system other than S-200, S-300 and S-400). Economically with US market?.
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by Iron_Clay on 27.02.2010 [01:44 ]
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I've never said that America will attack Iran ... as you will well know.
I've said that the US has already said it will not begin the attack on Iran but that the attack is up to Israel.
I've also said that the US will be directly involved.
Israel on the other hand still wants to throw it's little tantrum to convince the US to do the second lot of dirty work for the little baby.
by Syrian, you list the nuclear powers with capabilities to sell nuclear fuel on the open market and I'll show you a list of players who are NOT going to help Iran to complete the fuel cycle or help in times of war.
The new world order is already here ... it's not something that's coming soon or in the process of being constructed, it's already here ... you're looking right at it but can't see it.
For example you would have seen corporations being the only winners in the Iraqi massacre beginning 2003.
Governments have been pushed aside, in massive sellouts to private corporations who now own politicians.
Look at who has the most to gain in selling nuclear fuels to the world and you'll see who wants Iran made into glass.
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by Iron_Clay on 27.02.2010 [01:52 ]
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Tell ya what, you give me 20 nuclear warhead mounted bunker buster and I'll show you how to make 'rubbing sticks together to make fire' look like magic to what's left of Iran.
Iran NEEDS the S-300's or better to stop me playing my game out.
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by Iron_Clay on 27.02.2010 [01:56 ]
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never bother to read much of the english side of the site but I wish they would begin writing to their leader putting pressure on them to make good this S-300 deal quickly.
That would have worked 20 years ago but because "The Keepers" are all international (corporations) now even this isn't going to help.
I just hope they know by sitting on their hands they are becoming accountable for the destruction of Iran.
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by jimbo on 27.02.2010 [08:03 ]
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true.....ALL Western nations (and, that includes European Russia/Belorussia) are almost TOTALLY under the control of the kike!
therefore: they lie, cheat, steal, torture and kill the innocent without compunction!
as such: they would, also, think nothing of deliberately reneging on a contract because, of course, being kike-controlled, their "word" means absolutely nothing!
only African & Asian countries are free from jew-control;
particularly, for many Asian countries (including Japan), reneging on an agreed-upon deal would be seen as one of the worst types of "dis-honour" and a massive "loss of face"!
the jews, of course, have no "honour", so, the Western countries that they control have none either!
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by pilot-x on 27.02.2010 [08:05 ]
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to launch ball bearings into random orbits. Kill them goofy snooping nazi designed spy sattelites and the goof nazis and their drones are useless and fucked. Lets have another Somme or Vimy to test the nazis courage.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 27.02.2010 [12:53 ]
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Nobody seems to be worried about any sort of attack.
Nobody seems to care whether or not Iran gets Russian assistance on the S-300 or on nuclear energy, but everyone is very enthusiastic about Iran developing its own weapons and its own nuclear power.
I just returned from Isfahan to Tehran, visiting family in both cities. That sentiment is common in both places.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 27.02.2010 [12:58 ]
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quote:
e cannot sell weapons if that can lead to the destabilization of the regions in question," said Lavrov.
comment:
Selling the S-300 to Iran does stabilize the region.
Israel and the USA destabilize the region.
The USA's invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, and Israel's oppression of the Palestinians and invasion of Lebanon infuriate people in the region, and that causes instability.
If Israel could be put into its place, that would help regional stability.
Barring arms from Iran destabilizes the region.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 27.02.2010 [13:01 ]
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Kind of like racer X ?
Anyways, if the US / Israel do attack iran (same thing) then Iran should indeed, as you say, launch load after load of ball-bearings, tiny pebbles, rusty bolts, nuts, etc, into orbit and fupuck the Western satellite system.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 27.02.2010 [13:08 ]
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is it the banks, or the corporations.
It is true that the corporations have a great deal of power. Anaconda copper, for instance, was instrumental in coercing Nixon to get rid of the democratically elected Allende of Chile. But the banks control even the corporations.
The corporations derive or lose power from the international banks.
It is the bankers that need to be introduced to scope mounted hunting rifles.
Anyways, as far as I can tell, Iran is playing it smart. Iran is saying that they will produce some of their own fuel, and will purchase much of it from abroad also.
An industrially intact Iran is to Russia's benefit because while Iran is producing some of its own fuel, it can also purchase much of it from Russia.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 27.02.2010 [13:14 ]
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quote:
The only option for a potential attacker would be, if
he could manage to destroy most of the Iranian
nuclear facilities in some kind of aerial blitzkrieg.
But even this is an uncertain approach, as it is not so clear, how many nuclear facilities really exist in Iran.
May be only half of them are known to the West, and if they are destroyed, Iran could simply
carry on with the hidden ones.
comment:
And don't forget about the dummy nuclear sites. 90% of the sites are probably fakes intended to fool the enemy.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 27.02.2010 [13:17 ]
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quote:
Poiuytr has another take on the S-300, namely that it's what Russia uses to tease the west,
I agree with Poiuytr there. Russia wants the West to back off of Georgia.
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by Lima-P on 27.02.2010 [13:28 ]
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the good news you bring back from Iran. Any demoralisation there would have been a hard blow for us all. Also agree about that Georgia thing which keeps plaguing Russia. I wish they'd all grow up instead.
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by adrian on 27.02.2010 [14:35 ]
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I've seen this headline twice this week. It begs the question: when did the US lose control of Kandahar?
If the US does not control Kandahar, it does not control the Kabul to Herat road. Thus it cannot mount an effective ground assult against Iran on Irans eastern front. The US is in no position to attack. Iran does not need the S-300...
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by pilot-x on 27.02.2010 [14:58 ]
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Wonderful commentary, thank you for that. You are the first to respond to my ball bearing remark. Just the thought of those contraptions floating around up there with fattenned 'pilots' controlling the murder drones makes my skin crawl. Therein lies the 'militarization of space' we were instructed decades ago to resist.
Resist, resist, resist.
Another Orwell moment........
.....And.....
were done.
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by djandjolik on 27.02.2010 [15:52 ]
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more over Iran can be attacted only by planes flews (stealth ot non stealth) up above or in the vicinity of the target above Iran and the most important is not the missiles but the tracking radar system that bring missile to the target. Forget the S-300 missiles, Iran needs sophisticated radar system, since medium range missile like Buk M1 in combination with Iran huge stock piles of S-200 air defense system can do the job.
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by eureka on 28.02.2010 [00:15 ]
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that is preventing america from attacking Iran. If we follow the trend of the american attacks while they were constantly demonizing Iran, they include Somalia, Yemen and to a lesser extent Pakistan, given their government's duplicity.
It is patently clear that america and israel are two of the biggest cowards on the planet and despite all the talk, they don't have the stomach for a real even-sided battle so instead they atack weak countries and do everything possible to prevent these countries from obtaining more powerful munitions.
To attempt to prove my point, check all the reports for yourself and see that whenever the Taleban fighters have the americans in a real tough fight, they call in air-support to bomb their opponents. Not so with the Iraqis, the Taleban fighters, and all the other muslim fighters, who have no air-support to depend on and have to fight to their best ability.
I have said before that the americans are only capable of fighting with technology and superior weapons. If the Taleban had the same armaments as the americans, they wouldn't be any american bases in Afghanistan now; they would have all fled or would have been overrun.
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by djandjolik on 28.02.2010 [06:49 ]
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Iran air defense system like S-200, and medium defense like S-125 Pechora, Buk M1, and short range system like Tor M1 and Pannzir would do the job fine when attack by air above Iran land mass.
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by gazza on 28.02.2010 [09:53 ]
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According to the interview below , insiders think that the attack against Iran could happen next year.
h t t p://dprogram.net/2010/02/27/video-lindsey-williams-on-alex-jones-tv-opecs-debt-obligation-crisis-israels-ties-to-hamas/
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by djandjolik on 28.02.2010 [16:12 ]
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insiders think that the attack against Iran could happen next year". Well good news then its time for Iran to buy more long range air defensive system from China as well as more sophisticated phase array radar along with medium range air defense from Russia instead of S-300 PMU1.
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