Turkey is refusing US naval ships access to Georgia via the Black Sea!
By: morris108 on: 28.08.2008 [16:25 ] (6339 reads)
The Black Sea is the back yard of three big players Russia, Turkey and Ukraine.
Syria’s Assad has been billed as the first Arab leader to publicly support the Russians. And that was after nearly two weeks.
Is Turkey going to surprise the world? And continue to refuse the Americans? Is there is a pax Russia unfolding? And Ukraine for all its vitriol to Russia, transports about 90% of the Russian gas that goes to Western Europe. So there is clearly some interdependency between these 2 Black Sea neighbours. And if Georgia ends up a Russian dependency then Turkey is beholden to Russia for the BTC pipeline.
Public sentiment in Turkey for the US is still at rock bottom because of Iraq.
The President of Iran has just visited Turkey for two days against Israels objections.
It was in Turkey that the BTC pipeline was blown up, a few days before Georgia attacked, and a few days after Kazakhstan agreed to send its oil to Russia and not through the BTC pipeline. The Kurds claimed the sabotage, the Turks officially denied it was sabotage. If western agents had a hand in this might the Turks be upset? Their intelligence service knows what happened. As do the Russians, the Iranians and Israelis.
Are the Turks saying no to the Neocons?
This would P A N I C the Israelis, in fact Syria’s president visited Turkey this month, and Syria’s Interior Minister visited Turkey yesterday while Syria’s president Assad was in Moscow.
US in talks with Turkey for Straits passage of its naval vessels
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Lawmaker and analyst blasts Turkey for ‘not allowing a Georgia mission of U.S. hospital ships,’ whose passage into Black Sea would violate the straits convention. If Russia gains control of Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, it will be a blow on world energy markets, McCain warns
Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said last week that the United States had a general plan to send two hospital ships, the USNS Mercy and the USNS Comfort, to the Georgian coast for the planned humanitarian aid operation.A U.S. news report suggested at the weekend that Turkey had denied passage through the Black Sea to the two ships; quoting an unnamed State Department official as saying that “Turkey was not helpful.”According to the Montreux Convention of 1936, which governs the traffic of military ships to the Black Sea through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles, the number of naval ships from such states cannot, at any given time, exceed nine. In addition, the total displacement, or weight, of those military ships cannot exceed 45,000 tons. But according to official U.S. data, the USNS Mercy’s and the USNS Comfort’s tonnages both exceeded 69,000 tons, making them ineligible for passage to the Black Sea.
Ariel Cohen, a Russian expert at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative “think tank” in the United States, also criticized Turkey for the hospital ships, expressing the view that “Turkey is our NATO ally and, as a friend of Georgia, in my view, should have been more supportive of their Georgian neighbors and of their American allies” He continued, “And this brings back the bad taste of Turkey, for example, barring American troops from going into Iraq through Turkish ports and Turkish territory in 2003 - a step that vastly damaged the Turkish- American relations. I’d hoped we were putting that behind us.”
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The first U.S. military ship carrying humanitarian aid for Georgia is headed to the Black Sea after loading the supplies from a port in Crete on Wednesday, according to U.S. Navy officials.
A woman sweeps her tent at a camp for refugees, many from the South Ossetia region, in Tbilisi, Georgia.
The destroyer USS McFaul is one of two ships the Navy will use to transport the aid because the two Ships had permission from Turkey to transit into the Black Sea before the conflict between Georgia and Russia began, according to U.S. Navy officials. Source CNN
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Signs of Turkish and German sympathy for the Russians regarding Georgia.
There is a long list of statements and military cooperation to show Turkish and German solidarity with NATO,There are also some incongruous happenings;
The Turkish President has put a hitherto banned in Turkey documentary on Russian Turkish solidarity on his web site:
And Germany’s Der Speigel has an interview with Ex President of Georgia Shevardnadze, which reads like, ‘wouldn’t he make a wonderful replacement for Shakasvilli’.
There is also a report from South Ossetia in Der Speigel showing how S. Ossetia was never really part of Georgia, few people speak Georgian, and (a sympathy arousing) how the brave youth fought the Georgian Tanks with kalashnikovs, and that was after Shakasvilli on August 7th promised peace.
As stated above Merkel is also quoted in Der Speigel as saying Russia will now be punished with possible isolation for recognizing the breakaway territories. Perhaps this was obligatory.
Certainly Der Speigel reliably reflects German Government thinking.
And Turkey’s navy is currently cooperating in a naval exercise with Israel and the US in the Mediterranean.
Although very quiet now, it does not seem that Turkey has authorized any new passages for large US ships.
See recent article about Turkey refusing Naval passage on this blog.
Banned film on president’s Web site - Sabah newspaper
A documentary film titled “Turkey’s Heart Ankara, “filmed in 1934 by Russian filmmakers upon Ataturk’s request but pulled from broadcast by the Turkish Radio and Television Broadcast Corporation, or TRT, in 1969 with then TRT Director Adnan Öztrak saying the production “was only appropriate viewing for Moscow,” has now been made available for viewing on the presidency’s Web site.
Also see (August 21) Turkey is refusing US naval ships access to Georgia via the Black Sea/
The documentary, which emphasizes Turkish-Soviet solidarity during the Turkish War of Independence, also gives broad coverage to the ceremonies commemorating the 10th anniversary of the Republic’s founding.
“Turkey’s Heart Ankara” boasts not only the famous 10th anniversary anthem but also The Internationale, the communist anthem, in a segment about Soviet Defense Minister Kliment Jefremovics Voroşilov’s visit to Turkey.
GEORGIAN TANKS VS. OSSETIAN TEENAGERS
The Story of Tskhinvali’s Resistance By Uwe Klussmann in Tskhinvali
When Georgian forces moved into the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali on Aug. 7, they underestimated the Ossetians’ determination to resist them. Young men opened fire with Kalashnikovs and teenagers hurled petrol bombs at tanks. Now the local Russian-sponsored regime is triumphant.
Anyone who wants to know what Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili’s word is worth can see it in the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali these days. Pensioner Wachtang Babeyev still speaks a little of the Georgian he learned in Soviet times, when Ossetians and Georgians lived together peacefully, although not without tension, as the citizens of one country.
The cease-fire lasted 12 years until Saakashvili came to power in 2004. As soon as he was elected with a suspicious 96 percent of the vote and with Washington’s blessings, he started holding heated speeches about “criminal separatists.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: How should Georgia deal with its difficult and powerful neighbor?
Shevardnadze: I’ve always had a good relationship with Vladimir Putin. I’ve known him for a long time and think highly of him. When there were refugee issues that had to be dealt with in Abkhazia I worked closely with him and he was cooperative. I was open with him about our plans to work together with the United States
Interesting Thread at another site, too hard to piece it all together into an aritcle, best to check it out yourself from the source. Tet.